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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Bank Index Reply with quote

The Philadelphia Bank Index closed down 1.6% today - failing to burst through the resistance line that we discussed in last weekend's commentary.

My guess is that financial stocks will begin to underperform again going forward - suggesting a further decline in global liquidity.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love to buy 2 deviations, three I fear. Worked out Wed--but three usually means four...some kind of structural shift see crude. [edit] rice went 15 deviations. But there are markets and then there are markets.

My 20 BAC puts only paid 2.40...knives don't bounce. Moral: watch your metaphors as closely as your stocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$BKX now 3 standard deviations under the 200 day moving average. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "write-up" recovery has already begun--sortof.

Banks will be able to Mark-to-Market their debt in terms of carry.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That other bull-market: First under-performance in banks since the 80's


https://research.mfglobal.com/Dailyres/Financial/Equities/stocks_files/image008.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearish brother Frank offers some good charts breaking up the banks--many, ironically, showing approaching longer-term support. And then there's the warts.

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/barbera/2008/0701.html

The double touch on the lower BB on the unweighted market shows some promise as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KRE is hanging in there as well,...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BKX so far holding above massive support of 60 +0.4% as I am writing this... 5 more hours and we have fresh money coming next week Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fighting the tide?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dilution capitulation? --hard to measure when you are creating nothing out of something. Long bank debt and short equity is a trade that keeps getting bigger.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=atxdvigExnb4&refer=news
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rffrydr wrote:
There just so much more of it than there was a while ago. Dilution and oversold indicators don't mix.


Rffrydr,

Thats a good point,

however I see "good" banks with no subprime or CDO or whatsoever exposure trading at valuations (if we can speak of any serious estimates of valuations now ) that even a 50% cut in dividend still makes 4-5% yield. The selling in banks can not go forever and at some point they turn, this turn can be massive, enough when those short have to cover...

And if we see really some write-ups in 3Q ...

For a long term engagement in selected regional banks .... it was a buy for me..

My BIR is 12% up since yesterday morning ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There just so much more of it than there was a while ago. Dilution and oversold indicators don't mix.

There is some chatter that US financials are being pressured into selling overseas assets and repatriating into dollars. I hope that's not all there is behind this comeback. Quid pro quo with Saudis? That would be a new kind of G8.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BKX now most oversold in last 25 years or so...

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EBKX#symbol=%5EBKX;range=my

If Banks rebound 25% to a BKX of app 85 (and that is just a technical rebound) they lift SPX alone by 4% even if all other stocks stay where they are..

I think 50 SPX points banks and 70 the rest gives us so +120 or 1450, + breaking the stop losses at 1440 thats +30 Smile

well 1470 is not unrealistic within month should the banks really rebound ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BKX breaking the support at 75.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EBKX

Where goes the piggie there goes the tail?

Or panic sell-off posed for a big rebound lifting SPX?

I still wait a couple of days but I have a finger on the trigger to go long should we fall under DJIA 12100 and short term sentiment oversold.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The current financials retracement captured in the sentiment here:

http://www.smartmoney.com/barrons/index.cfm?story=20080530-where-financial-crisis-is-headed-next&pgnum=1

I'm in the BSC "lamb-to-the-gods" camp; yet, note the closet bullishness. Some of the metrics you might want to use to buy..
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ETF, XLF can be traded. It mirrors the BKX index. Also options available.

Notice the high volume on the XLF today. RSI and MACD tracking lower.



http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=XLF
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