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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:47 am Post subject: |
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Now that that's been shaken out, still don't wanna be short...but impossible to be long (orange line breakevens):
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nodoodahs Moderator

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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| rffrydr wrote: | | JP Morgan survey showed a net treasury short position at its highest since May 2010. |
St Louis Fed FRED on GS10 (monthly average 10YT constant maturity yield)
| Quote: | 2010-01-01 3.73
2010-02-01 3.69
2010-03-01 3.73
2010-04-01 3.85
2010-05-01 3.42
2010-06-01 3.20
2010-07-01 3.01
2010-08-01 2.70
2010-09-01 2.65
2010-10-01 2.54
2010-11-01 2.76
2010-12-01 3.29
2011-01-01 3.39
2011-02-01 3.58
2011-03-01 3.41 |
Doesn't look like May 2010 was a good time to have a high net treasury short position. Wonder how this one will work out?  _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:33 am Post subject: |
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JP Morgan survey showed a net treasury short position at its highest since May 2010. The net
short rose 4% to 17%. Longs were flat at 6% and shorts were up 4% to 23%.
Go PIMCO go. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Dealers dramatically reduce inventory....but, still, it's only dealers:
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The 18 primary dealers that trade with the Federal Reserve reported that holdings of U.S. government debt tumbled to a net $2.34 billion on Dec. 29 from $81.3 billion on Nov. 24, the most since June 2009, according to the most recent central bank data. While the stake is the lowest since February, corporate bond and mortgage securities have risen from the lows of the year. |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-10/wall-street-dumps-most-treasuries-since-2004-as-dealers-betting-on-growth.html _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Gross on the Bloomie today, confirming end of the bull--and denying beginning of the bear. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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What's the trigger away of bonds? Last August Basel proposed all senior debt gets converted into equity before taxpayer money goes in. Wouldn't that just flip the cake?
With all the world's cash leaning heavily on bonds wouldn't that be quite the revaluation?! P/E's and NPAs would hardly be the measure of bank stock. In europe it's estimated 7/1 debt to equity in finance. Wouldn't that just flip the cake  _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Buffett getting his refis in--and fixed. But we already Buffett's bullish on america. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: |
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=CESIG10:IND
Since we live in an age of "whisper numbers" and "guidance," and since trend moves usually turn on a dime this index is probably best for more generalized macro study. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 11723 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| What is the Surprise Index and how does one calculate it? |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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 _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Evidence? Look up, not down. They started THE move: Clinton took their vitriol and channeled it into policy. Before they knew it, the "vigilantes" (read Republicans) were co-opted by their own logic, and ended up rewarding the enemy. And the Democrats were re-invented. That culminated with the enthronement of Rubin at Citi. Overlay the aging of the boomers and we've got a strategic move.
Now, as we are linked by a common currency, do the chinese equal the new boomers? Bush the new Nixon? I don't think so. but time will out.
Imagine a very imaginable recovery: 2.5% inflation in a 4.5% economy, 5% 10-year treasury is very conservative. It's not the new normal, just normal. Yes, this will ultimately be good for stocks and hi-yield (as hinted at this last week)--but then there'd be no shock. Market is always ready for a good shock. Better for more bland jobs numbers now.
See above chart for beneficiaries; and also look to the big pensioners: states and autos  _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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nodoodahs Moderator

Joined: 06 May 2005 Posts: 2408
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| rffrydr wrote: | | The vigilantes will take much more than their credit: | Isn't that always the case? Looking at the history I cannot really spot any instance of the vigilantes actually *starting* a significant move in the U.S. long bond.
Silly for anyone to take credit for a bond "selloff" that is still about 60 bps BELOW the high yield for the calendar year ...
Still amazing the relative volatility of yields this year. Astounding. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Treasuries continue to spike on one-two punch of tax deficit "expansion"; which is being interpreted as a brake on QEII, which has not been fully formally committed to. Auction today.
Thought the euro-driven bond vigilantism would stay off its turn on the US 'til later in '11. Looks like they're chomping at the bit. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Downgrades to Verizon and ATT--two biggest non-financial bond issuers and key transition stocks in getting a dividend buy last summer. Not good for sentiment in general. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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