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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Cramer's Got My Number |
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Well here's the Madman once again: couldn't help reprint 'cause now he's talking to--at--me. Is this really the "secret consensus"?
| Quote: | Sometimes it just hits you. You will be reading an article about some fund manager somewhere who sounds perfectly intelligent and you will spot it, the holy grail of the moment -- THE CONSENSUS. I won't mention the fellow's name -- it is unimportant -- because he's good at his job, but the thoughts he is currently expounding sound like many others I hear, to wit:
Oil prices will fall to $80 a barrel.
The dollar will rise when the Fed stops cutting rates.
GDP growth in China will slow.
First, let me just say that those events would be bullish for every domestic company in our universe, including the financials, and we would have a miracle bull market where less than 20% of the market -- ag/mineral/oil and gas/infra --collapses and fully 80% of the market can rally (I am including the health care stocks because, somehow, they have been seen to become hostage to the weak federal government, and in this scenario I don't see the federal government as worried about cutting back spending).
So, as someone who has to talk about stocks all of the time and has an innate bias -- because I am not a hedge fund operator -- for stocks to go higher, I want this scenario to play out.
But let's take a look at it, because it is what I think the vast majority secretly believes in, and when you get a week where oil falls hard (albeit from really high levels) and the dollar rallies it seems like everyone believes in it out loud and the consensus pops out of the closet.
First, oil. Once again the consensus REFUSES to take into account how little oil is being discovered and how much is being pumped. We just sent oil man xxx Cheney over to Saudi Arabia in an attempt, no doubt, to get them to pump more. Believe me, they want to pump more too. It doesn't matter. Iraq is supposedly more pacified, and while all we hear about is the inevitable stealing of all the money coming from the fields -- typical of the incompetence and corruption that is endlessly worth banking on -- they are pumping more than they have and it doesn't matter. No areas right now are out of commission because of natural disasters or terrorism. Still doesn't matter. The hedge funds have had to unwind their 30-to-1 leveraged hoarding of oil and it STILL doesn't matter.
So what if a few million more people carpool. So what if we keep taking our food supply and shoving it into our tank. It doesn't matter. Don't you think that Exxon (XOM - commentary - Cramer's Take), Chevron (CVX - commentary - Cramer's Take), Conoco (COP - commentary - Cramer's Take), BP (BP - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Royal Dutch (RDS.A - commentary - Cramer's Take) are pumping all they can, because no one believes oil is sustainable at these prices save perhaps Jim Mulva from Conoco?
That's why I think the $80 is a fantasy. It's just too bullish for everything but oil. You believe it? Go buy AMR (AMR - commentary - Cramer's Take). Your money.
Next, the dollar. I think the dollar will rise when the economy gets stronger, but I think the issue with the dollar is how many we print and how little we save and how little we tax and how much we spend both as people and as a nation. Look around at the countries with strong currencies and you will see good growth and self-control, which under this administration has become a joke. I know I can barely contain my contempt for their decision to debase the dollar. They figure no one goes away, I guess.
This is the inevitable result of a plan to dismantle the federal government by starving it: you can't dismantle it and you can't starve it, you just get someone else to pay for it and they are pretty fed up with paying, knowing that there's a lot more supply ahead. I think the dollar will rally when we get some self-control or when we are so cheap that the Europeans come and snatch up our assets with their euros and that -- something I have been completely wrong on because I guess I, too, have been too bullish on the dollar -- hasn't happened yet. Or, the dollar will rally when we get a new administration that isn't as contemptible around the world, and that is viewed as having some self-control. Oh, an aside ... boy, are we hated.
Finally, GDP growth in China. Here's one we have been hearing about for about 10 years. I think there will be a cyclicality to China's growth. The fact that more than half the people in the country have cell phones means, let's say, that there are fewer people who need cell phones than two years ago. That's the kind of undefeatable logic that always prevails.
I point out that what people are really implying is that China will have a bust to go with its boom, which presumes the kind of bust that happened even as this country expanded across the continent. Moments got out of control but it was a really bad bet to believe that there wasn't, at any one time, secular noninflationary growth in this country for more than 100 years. That feels like China to me.
So, while I am a guy who likes a consensus, I see all of the takeaways of this consensus -- short Schlumberger (SLB - commentary - Cramer's Take) and XOM, sell Deere (DE - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Chevron, Halliburton (HAL - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Fluor (FLR - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Bunge (BG - commentary - Cramer's Take) -- having some short-term power to them. I understand the propensity to roll back gold -- the logical extension of a strong dollar.
But I simply don't see the structural side of this bull case -- more oil supply, a better administration, the end of industrialization of China -- playing out in a way that you can do anything but make a trade on it.
The investment side of the anti-consensus just seems a better bet to me. |
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In a perverse way the autos show the way through the valley. Go Jimbo, go:
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High Time for a Merger Wave
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
12/2/2008 4:00 PM EST
How can Johnson & Johnson (JNJ - commentary - Cramer's Take) be the only company that sees a bargain here? How can only JNJ have enough cash to buy a company, Mentor (MNT - commentary - Cramer's Take), that has been shrunk to a level nobody thought possible?
It is incredible how companies that have tons of cash are simply hoarding it and not buying companies that they know in their industry are additive right here.
I look at retail, and I simply don't believe that everyone is going under. You could put together a powerhouse merchant/apparel company here if you are Polo Ralph Lauren (RL - commentary - Cramer's Take) or Coach (COH - commentary - Cramer's Take) or VF Corp. (VFC - commentary - Cramer's Take). You can just go pick as you please!
Or how about Morgan Stanley (MS - commentary - Cramer's Take). If you own that franchise, you have a company that can help baby boomers for years and years. Are all of the insurance companies so underwater on annuities that none can be bought? Did everyone do the wrong trade?
I just don't get it. How can only one company see through this period? If I were Pfizer (PFE - commentary - Cramer's Take) I would be calling Bristol-Myers Squibb (BMY - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were Merck (MRK - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling Celgene (CELG - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were Devon Energy (DVN - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling Anadarko (APC - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were General Electric (GE - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling Fluor (FLR - commentary - Cramer's Take), Foster Wheeler (FWLT - commentary - Cramer's Take), URS Corp. (URS - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Shaw (SGR - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were the Nasdaq (NDAQ - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling NYSE Euronext (NYX - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were Nabors (NBR - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling Halliburton (HAL - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were Kellogg (K - commentary - Cramer's Take) I would be calling H.J. Heinz (HNZ - commentary - Cramer's Take). If I were Kimberly-Clark (KMB - commentary - Cramer's Take), I would be calling Clorox (CLX - commentary - Cramer's Take).
There's just too much opportunity here.
After the crash in 1987 there was no merger activity until it was clear that there was no business falloff. We have business falloff. But do we really believe that we will never come out of this?
There is worth here. There's too much fear and not enough companies thinking that it is only a matter of time before market share will matter and that a new administration might block any buy.
Time for companies to get moving. Get buying. Especially the myriad companies with tons of cash that are self-financing and ready to rock. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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It's easy to criticize but The Madman is at the top of his game:
| Quote: | Hey, Paulson, Thanks for Nothing
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
11/20/2008 3:42 PM EST
Of all of the xxx, unbelievable, totally disingenuous statements from this administration -- and there have been a ton of them -- the one that stands out as the most ridiculous is the "no authority to bail out Lehman" statement. Oh, except the "it didn't matter much anyway" statement, which is total nonsense.
First, Lehman changed the world. It caused the buck to be broken. It caused massive runs on banks around the world. It caused confidence to be lost overnight. Most of all, it ended the "moral hazard" nonsense. You never heard that phrase again because it's clear that Lehman was "punished."
Let's go over this. No one wanted to buy American International Group (AIG - commentary - Cramer's Take) -- no one at all, fewer than kicked the tires on Lehman. So we bought it. We don't know what we bought with it. We know that it has cost us almost $200 billion.
That's fine?
Second, every serious person in finance knows this. I talk to a gazillion people, including many people who were in the room, and they all say the same thing: The Treasury and the Fed didn't get the ramifications. They had the ramifications. They had them.
They did nothing.
Third, their actions after, AIG, Goldman Sachs (GS - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Morgan Stanley (MS - commentary - Cramer's Take) all indicate they knew they made a mistake, but because they won't own mistakes -- mistakes such as wiping out the Freddie Mac (FRE - commentary - Cramer's Take) and Fannie Mae (FNM - commentary - Cramer's Take) preferreds, another dumb idea -- we are stuck with a government in which we have no confidence.
So what does Paulson do? He comes on the air, and he tells us what happened as he sees it, something that smacked more of fiction than fact. And then, he tells us nothing about what could happen and his goals? What the future might look like? Hope? Confidence?
No. Nothing. Nothing at all. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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It's Time To Think Big
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
11/19/2008 7:41 PM EST
Now what? Those who clung to levels know that the levels failed. Those who cling to the aversion of the financial apocalypse seem out of answers. Every kind of bond except for Treasuries is now under intense assault. Every asset class except Treasuries is being liquidated.
I think it is time to think big -- as in, can we afford to buy stock knowing that we have some major financial and manufacturing and real estate interests that are about to go under? Can we afford to buy stocks now that we have taken out the levels that functioned as safety nets to so many?
The answer for me is very hard. Unless you think it is possible that stocks will rally on the news of bankruptcies and cram downs and collapses of commercial construction companies, retailers, auto makers, banks and the like, you can only buy small on the way down. Or you don't buy at all. I have to be talked into a thesis that says stocks can rally on the sequential downfall of so many institutions.
I think it is all PURE LEVEL BUYING FROM HERE AND YIELD BUYING with selling accompanying EVERYTHING YOU BUY on the short squeezes up. So, if you bought a little down 300 as we did today, now you have to wait on a wide scale to buy. The only thing that is going to save your life is a scale.
Why buy at all? Because we all know that many stocks are now being forced down unequivocally to bargain levels.
So why not be bullish? Because a sizable number of the stocks currently trading are zombies, brain dead stocks that will ultimately disappear. Or they are like GM (GM) or Ford> (F) , with so much debt that the common stock is irrelevant.
I had been comparing this era to 1990-1991, but that went out the window a long time ago. I have compared it more lately to the 2000-2003 Nazz. In that one, many of the companies people bought down on didn't exist a year later.
In the latter example, it made more sense to sell at this point than to buy.
I can't disagree on that course of action, although I think the propensity to get those miserable short squeeze rallies will give you a better opportunity.
Bottom line: as the market goes down, I do like it more. But it has to be with stocks that will be backed up by companies still in existence when the smoke clears.
At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in stocks mentioned.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Bonds Paint Bleak Picture
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
11/18/2008 6:42 PM EST
You have to recognize the divergence between the total collapse in the credit markets that occurred in the last few days and a closing rally that seemed like it was a true hold of nasty levels.
I am seeing mortgage bonds made up of FICO 700 plus, Triple AAAs, trading in the 30s. That means we are in huge trouble. We have basically given up for now trying to fix the mortgage problem. I have seen high yield bonds without bids. I have seen Treasurys trade to absurdly high levels because no other paper is worth anything.
And then I see beautiful sell programs in part because Chevron (CVX) and Exxon (XOM) are being bought in huge amounts to get things rolling.
The struggle between bonds and stocks isn't and hasn't been playing out right for two years now. The stocks are signaling that we are finding a bottom. The bonds are indicating that there is no bottom in sight.
When in doubt, go with the bonds. And that is what I am doing.
At the time of publication, Cramer was long Chevron.
Know What You Own: Other stocks related to the ones mentioned above are BP (BP) , ConocoPhillips (COP) , Royal Dutch Shell (RDS.A) , Total SA (TOT) and PetroChina (PTR) .
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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The Madman discounts this rally asking where are the BKs; where are the layoffs. It's a trading market for him (sell Chevron on 3% yield, buy on 4%). 500,000 jobless and Chrysler DOA, Circuit C and Mervyns--and the death of Merrill et. al. not enough? _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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I dont think anyone disputes that the markets are broken but that wont prevent a good rally to alleviate the oversold condition evident on a monthly basis. Markets cant defy physics forever. _________________ All cats are gray in the dark. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Too Much Complacency in This Broken Market
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
11/11/2008 6:48 PM EST
The vast complacency conspiracy strikes daily. You hear it endlessly that it's time, that you have to see the bargains because they are everywhere. I don't hear anyone saying that the market is broken and that the rallies have all been big phonies and that the state of many businesses in the country is pretty precarious.
It's amazing to me that people just don't come on TV. and say that they are shell-shocked, just shell-shocked, at things like Las Vegas Sands (LVS) or Prudential (PRU) or Hartford (HIG) .
It is astounding to me that people don't see how broken things are. How can we act as if everything is OK when Ford (F) , General Motors (GM) and Chrysler are all pretty much insolvent? Why doesn't anyone come on TV and say, "Holy cow, Genworth (GNW) is at a buck and change, and I have my insurance with them," as I do, and I am plenty worried. Why aren't people more scared?
Believe me, I am not fomenting panic. I am simply saying that if you are not cautious or at least concerned that lots of moving parts seem to be breaking down in both the financial and manufacturing economy that matter tremendously to the well-being of much of the country, we cannot be numbed into thinking that everything will be OK.
I just don't get it. I don't get it at all. How can not a single person come on and say, "Oh man, what the heck, Pru? Pru?"
I am dazed by this stuff.
How can others not be?
At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in stocks mentioned.
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Trichet's Blunder Shows Just How Much Trouble We're In
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney Columnist
11/6/2008 10:09 AM EST
ECB President Trichet, when asked if we are in a recession, says, "We shall see." He tells us there is no credit crunch.
There. That's about all you need to know about how bad things are going to get. Much of the big thesis about why stocks have already bottomed is a deep abiding theory that once we are in a recession you have to start buying because stocks reflect it. I call this the Buffett view, augmented by the conversion of bear to bull of other respected people like Jeremy Grantham, whom I regard as being bearish from about 5000 and has missed 9,000 points but is still somehow respected. I hope I can be that wrong and still be that respected. It is also the camp of "newfound" bull Steve Leuthold who claims he just joined the bullish party but has taken a gigantic pasting when he was supposed to be a bear.
I was always skeptical of the Buffett view, because it is too rosy. It is too rosy because of the Trichet view that we don't know yet if we are in recession. If the policymakers don't know we are in a recession, how can people claim that we are already right in investing (as distinguished from trading)?
My view was short-term bullish, longer-term bearish. I have been playing the wave because U.S. stocks have gotten so low, or at least so low at Dow 8100, that it didn't seem worth it to sell 'em anymore. But I do think from now on, after the election where there are tremendous uncertainties, you have to sell the Buffett/Grantham/Leuthold rallies. They aren't worth the risk until we get to SPX 800 and Dow 8100.
Anytime you can catch 1,000 Dow points it is worth doing, even if you gave back 500 to do so. If I told you you could go long here and make 12%, you would take it in a heartbeat. So if you could make 17% and give back 5%, why is that a disaster? It is only a disaster if you have never run money professionally, which often seems to be the dichotomy among people who read and write for the site.
Now that the Europeans have spoken and don't recognize we are in a recession, we are pretty much sunk, as the fundamentals are the worst I have ever seen in my 29 years of trading. If you have to own stocks, then accidentally high yielders, recession-resistant -- which got hosed by the S&P futures with everything else -- and stocks selling near cash represent the only safe places to try not to lose much money. I do believe that stocks reflected nearly the worst fundamentals two weeks ago, but that required a belief that the Trichets of the world knew we were in deep trouble.
They don't.
Therefore we are in deeper trouble than the Buffetts/Granthams/Leutholds think, no matter how much we love and respect them.
Random musings: My interview with Duke Energy's (DUK) excellent CEO, Jim Rogers -- where he point-blank said solar's too expensive -- is the death knell for the group, because Rogers represents the most forward-thinking and politically intelligent CEO in that industry. ... As I indicated yesterday, I took out a big chunk of my daughter's college money yesterday -- she goes in the fall. The risk-reward's not good enough to risk money that you might need in the next five years, a statement I have made that has come back to haunt me even though it was made at Dow 11,000 and repeated at Dow 10,000, which last I looked are higher than where we are...
At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in the stocks mentioned.
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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He missed the Mittal linked selloff on the global-mining oriented FTSE (RBS earnings didn't help) but that stock was the wrong kind of bellweather, primped and pimped by hedge-funds and "good-will" (in a steel company!)
100 bpts of ease from the master market technician Gordon Brown (not Mervyn) and some ECB followthough would go a long way to balancing this out and leave a bottom at the day gap. If not, I 'm not going to trade it, but I'd agree that this negative impulse should be bought, probably after claims before the jobs friday--the sharper the better. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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We Could See a Dip Worth Buying
By Jim Cramer
Chairman
11/5/2008 6:37 PM EST
So, we are going to get our chance to buy the dip if the Europeans don't make a strong showing.
We have Wells Fargo (WFC) picking the worst time imaginable to do an offering. We have Bank of America (BAC) through the secondary price, and we have Citigroup (C) , amazingly, at $12.
The news from Cisco (CSCO) , while everyone expected it to be negative, was so incredibly negative as to make me wonder, how in heck did the Nazz lead us? What was it about? Was it just easier to manipulate than the S&P? We had a credit collapse today of converts and straight corporate.
It was like everything had been marked up for weeks and it fell apart in one session.
Without the Europeans cutting and the Chinese buying and the persistent bid, we are probably, after tonight, headed for another shellacking.
I genuinely thought we would have time to sell 'em today, and I got that wrong. I had become conditioned to the trade and the obliviousness to the fundamentals.
Now they are back with a vengeance, and if Europe doesn't deliver we will find out just how nasty things can get.
I say retreat to the stocks with high dividends, the recession-resistants and the companies near their cash.
Everything else is just wait and see.
Now just who was that bidder anyway? And will Buffett/Grantham/Leuthold be there to buy all the way down?
At the time of publication, Cramer was long Cisco.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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The Stocks Are Bad; the Futures Are Good
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney.com Columnist
10/30/2008 10:18 AM EDT
The disconnect between the futures and the common stocks is greater than I have ever seen. Ever. I know tons of managers who are playing the futures because they think the market should go higher and because they can't find any stocks -- save maybe 3M (MMM) or Apple (AAPL) or Google (GOOG) -- where the earnings are good enough to buy. In fact, the "long futures, short common stock" play is the favorite trade. Of course, the futures, used by gigantic pension funds, trump any shorts, causing the pain in the Exxons (XOM) and the Chevrons (CVX) for the shorts that I keep describing, especially because the oil futures are strong.
We are in uncharted waters because we are sending a market up right when earnings and employment are about to fall off a cliff.
To me, homework has been devalued, and what matters is money in, which is trumping the shorts and not meeting any resistance from fund managers, who are riding it up to gain performance. No one I know is taking money out of the market, simply because the futures are rising and they believe they'll continue to rise as the Fed goes into overdrive, making things happen and bailing out anything and everything.
It is a difficult time because you simply have to suspend belief in the actual stocks underneath the commodity if you are going to make any money. You just can't find enough stocks to own. Not even a basket.
But you can own 'em all and make money. Such is the way of this totally broken asset class that everyone suddenly loves so much.
At the time of publication, Cramer was long Chevron.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Cramer may be on to more than he knows. It is precisely these companies that can guide us back to the bull side for these are going to be the first companies that the market can see "through the cycle." Foreclosures, credit and shipping are not going to stop these companies...and beaten down consumers are not going to stop buying, Christmas or no. Even the unemployed.
Once we refine this focus, it will spread beyond narrow ring of companies. Yield will be the floor.
Here's the danger: | Quote: | The Oil Services HOLDRs (ETF - commentary - Cramer's Take) paints an even darker picture than the crude oil futures contract. The fund entered the last phase of its powerful rally in September 2006, a few months ahead of the underlying commodity. It topped out at the same time, in July of this year, but has sold off with even greater fury.
The fund crushed the two-year low when the equity indices sold off earlier this month, coming to rest more than 30 points below that level. To put things into perspective, it finally bounced within the trading range of the day it came public in February 2001. So its net return since that time is 0%, despite the biggest oil boom in history.
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The key is the liquidation effect. CRB is back to foundations and showed some leaders yesterday. Exxon; Chevron followed:
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=XOM#chart2:symbol=xom;range=1d;compare=^gspc;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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It's a Trader's Market, Even on the Up Days
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney.com Columnist
10/23/2008 6:11 PM EDT
Editor's note: Jim Cramer will present his 2009 stock outlook for the first time at TheStreet.com Investment Conference on Saturday, Oct. 25. Limited seating. Act now.
Yep, the rally felt better today. More strength, more breadth, even some lift to the financials in the end.
But to me, it is just another example of how you should trade things. If I were a retail investor, I would use Chevron (CVX) as my vehicle. Every time the stock gets to around $60 it yields 4%, and I don't know a soul who thinks that yield is unsafe.
I would put a limit order in to buy 100 shares at $60 and a second limit at $57. Then when the stock gets to $65, I would sell the first 100 and then $68 for the second 100. The worst that happens is you own a high-quality oil that will yield slightly more than 4% in a business that is throwing off a huge amount of cash. I just think that's easier than all of this bottom-calling, which I have said will not happen until the housing issues are cleared up and the hedge funds don't have redemptions.
Everything is a trade here until then. Everything.
At the time of publication, Cramer was long Chevron.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Cheap Oil Means Exotic Drilling Is a Loser
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney.com Columnist
10/22/2008 1:52 PM EDT
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Here's where the rubber hits the road on the big oil projects. Right about $60 and change is where many of the more exotic projects get scrapped and where the big-time day rates don't work.
It is incredible that oil has fallen to the point where any big contracts made in the last few years for day rates are now making it possible that companies are just at "push" level on their production. That's nasty for Transocean (RIG) , as if the suffering owners themselves can't tell.
And the outfits like Suncor (SU) truly get scalded on any of the heavier oil projects. I presume we will soon hear about cancellations of those giant shale projects in Canada like the one Shell (RDS.A) is doing. Needless to say, solar's a total loser below $60, and I doubt natural gas can hold $6 for too long. I have no idea how coal stays up here and would be fleeing those stocks right now, especially after that "last good" Peabody (BTU) quarter.
Put simply, this decline is now dreadful for any company that relies on 2009 capex budgets, because despite what you will hear -- that we have to keep drilling to replenish -- I suspect that the bears in the room will have their way, just like they did in the mid-'80s, and everyone who went out on a limb to drill 10,000 feet or more will get their heads cut off.
At the time of publication, Cramer had no positions in the stocks mentioned.
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Machine Orders Add to the Market Craziness
By Jim Cramer
RealMoney.com Columnist
10/15/2008 6:50 PM EDT
Even in 1987, even in the 24 hours after the crash, it was never this bad. It never made this little sense. It never took stocks down to 3 and 4 times earnings with good yields, like Nucor (NUE) , where even if we had a severe recession I still believe the company would not lose a fortune.
Of course what this market is saying - no, make that babbling -- is that most companies are going to lose fortunes during this recession, and the yields aren't worth squat, and the valuations for everything are way too high.
To me this whole thing feels like The Terminator, where the machines took over and turned on man. We don't stand a chance against these machines that are spitting out orders for ETFs and common so fast and with so little discipline and in such size that they overwhelm stocks and even make equities like Exxon Mobil (XOM) seem tiny.
You know the money just got too big. I didn't even find today as upsetting as I did Monday, because on Monday the price action in the last 10 minutes was so absurd that you could envision Wednesday happening, because there was no way any real buyer was going to take Chevron (CVX) up 12, meaning someone trying to buy Chevron for investment. Who in his right mind would buy up 12 to make money? That's short-covering, or the tail being wagged by a futures or ETF dog.
It is so obvious that the market has ceased to function right that I can't believe someone isn't investigating whether there is something completely wrong with the mechanics of the market.
Wouldn't you love to know who bought Chevron up 12 or who sold it down 8? Wouldn't you love to know if it was a machine acting in conjunction with an ETF?
Because it sure isn't a rational human out there trying to buy or sell.
We are going to have to get to the bottom of these swings soon, before they eliminate equities as a place to do anything but speculate.
It's that bad.
And in the meantime, each time we fly up like on a Monday and we fly down like we did today, there will be fewer people in the casino.
It just seems so rigged, why bother?
At the time of publication, Cramer was long Chevron.
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