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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Tom Graff
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7/23/2010 12:40 PM EDT
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Although the European markets are closed and so this can't be seen as a reaction to the stress tests, I should note that most of the sovereign CDS are significantly tighter today. Portugal 15bps tighter. Spain 7bps tighter. Italy 10bps tighter. Ireland 11bps tighter. Even France is 5bps tighter.
I don't think we've heard the last from the PIIGS, mainly because I see Greece eventually defaulting. But it might take a year or more before that actually happens. But even if the PIIGS fade from the headlines, let's not forget about them entirely. |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: |
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So "results" are still a couple hours ahead but already reaction to Europe's cultural stand on trading vs. holding.
Funny, Germany, the country demanding the highest standards is probably the least concerned with this. And so the eternal Anglo/Euro split goes on. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see why sentiment can't take us higher here. This is typical:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232/?video=1549032050&play=1
It will be said that their tests are nothing like ours. --A point I've continually hammered. Structured finance is the fundamental difference. Yes, holdings here lead to exposure there...and that sucks in unforeseen risks. But, this is the big BUT, opacity is not the issue. Structured finance strikes at the heart of markets: price and time. Time is what was really leveraged. And price, that was something to be adjudicated. These structures, at the local level, weren't toxic--they were discombobulating. Wall St's favorite axiom, "visibility" is turned inside out.
Take Greece, now.....please! So, say it's insolvent (which it isn't); say it's a "corporate" body (which it isn't); and say it's unrepentant (which it has already shown the world it most definitely is). Add it up...and subtract. 10 centimes on a euro? Impossible. 90? More probable. Tote up the french banks, multiply by .8. Throw in Portugul. Even throw in World's Cup champions, Spain. That's serious. But that's calculable.
Now add in the fact that these assets, properly, can be held-to-maturity. Now add in all the structured finance NOT on these banks balance sheets. Now add in all the european RE debt not bubbled, not leveraged--and the simple fact that they don't live in houses. I call it a wash.
Throw in a market panic, I call it a buy.
Now, if you're gonna crash china that's a different story. This selldown has been telling lots of stories. All at once. Isn't that the definition of a "panic."
Oh, Greece is like individual in at least one way: it has powerful friends! _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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This is the way it should be:
| Quote: | | With regards to the stress tests, Media reports overnight reported further information regarding the stress test. Der Speigel is saying that the peripheral debt haircuts will be as follows: Greece (20%), Portugal (11%), Ireland (8.6%), Spain (6.7%), and Italy (4.9%). Bunds will attract a 2.3% haircut. It was also reported that haircuts will only apply to securities held in banks’ short-term trading books, but not for bonds held for longer periods. EU Finance Ministers will meet today and tomorrow which will be the last official full meeting before the release date (23 July). Stress test and the EFSF will be the main discussion points. We can perhaps expect more news flows on this topics over the next 48 hours. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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And the third interpretation: they just may not need as much.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/09/30/74811/ecb-liquidity-monster-back-in-its-cage-for-now/
Results from the ECB’s latest 1-year financing auction, held on Tuesday, revealed that the central bank allotted €75.24bn to eurozone financial institutions, much less than the €137.5bn analysts had expected. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: |
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They also cut their expected world writedown by half a trillion in the quarter, "blaming" FASB--big numbers changing faster than they should. That's the thing about leverage it cuts both ways--both ways.
German unemployment numbers has europe looking down their noses at us for now. Credit Paribas out from under govt. thumb this week. Lloyd's on deck. RBS getting mean, in on EVERY deal this year.
The fear is taking ratios back to nineties--there's just not enough money to do that. Therefore
I'd say we learn to live with our anxieties. 10-4% peak-to-trough with allowance for hybrid debt with a heavy dose of credit restructuring will be our travel-guide on this journey. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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IMF's latest Financial Stability Report is released. Shows that Europe's banking system is as sick as ever:
http://blogs.ft.com/money-supply/2009/09/30/the-new-capital-of-europe/
| Quote: | | The result - European banks have a huge amount more capital to raise in absolute terms - $310bn more to get tangible common equity up to 4 per cent of total assets. US banks have already done better on capital raising and do not have so much further to go, while UK banks also have $110bn to raise, which is significant, given the small size of the UK economy compared with the eurozone. |
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