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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hays interview with Hoenig:
http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/Economics/On_Economy/v3X6QbSu1FF0.mp3
Closet Bundesbank here. Turns out as a young man he was given a 500000 Mark note from his german neighbor to show him how things were done way back. And in this interview while accounting for the manufacturing devastation in his home state can't help slipping in the "runaway" ag land prices.
Isn't it the easiest thing of all being a "hawk"? Bold, strong, aloof--self-denying and, more to the point, denying others? In the end, when it all goes kaput, like Melon, you just "liquidate." Of course the Hawks are always of rich blood so they'll be doing the buying.
In truth, the ultimate Hawk move here would be to throw every last cent you can print into the black hole of the banks. That way nothing might be "misappropriated" now, or down the line--post you. God help you should fed money do something, anything PRODUCTIVE. Hawks make no decisions, weigh nothing. No means yes in the long run...and in the long run...
Hawks deny themselves nothing while denying anything from everybody. They need to exist to the extent that doves need to be married. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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H. Simons on the FED today, look to Big OIL for model of future financials:
| Quote: | Howard Simons
RIP, Greenspan Put, 1987-2008
9/16/2008 2:57 PM EDT
First, let me say I would not have been surprised with a massive rate cut. Even 100 basis points was possible; extraordinary times lead to extraordinary measures, not to be confused with effective measures.
So saying, the big issue in central banking is a quantity issue. If they provide the liquidity demanded and accept all manner of collateral, as they have been doing, does it really matter what the funds rate is? What, we die at 2.00% and are saved at 1.5%? Hardly.
This marks the end of the Greenspan Put era, continued by Bernanke. It had to end sometime. Going forward, Wall Street will be a much less risk-seeking place. For good or bad. As I've commented in the context of the oil industry, everyone running an oil company today lived through the mid-1980s and late 1990s price collapses. Everyone who will be running a financial firm over the next 20 years is living through this. It changes the way you think and act.
By the way, I'd like to meet the day-trader who made money today. Seriously. |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Not only that, but we need a steeper global yield curve, beginning with the Bank of England and the ECB. The People's Bank of China has already shifted to an easing bias for the first time in six years. This preemptive stance is decidedly pro-growth. Combined with an increasingly "dovish" fiscal policy, China has shown it is serious about promoting growth and domestic spending to offset the weakness in global consumer spending in general. Look for more easing from China over the next several months.
Wage growth in Western Europe is also dramatically slowing down. My sense is that the September inflation numbers will plunge across the board - allowing both the Bank of England the European Central Bank to start cutting rates before the end fo this year. We will see. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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We need a steeper curve.... _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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nodoodahs Moderator

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:07 am Post subject: |
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http://marketthoughts.com/z20080724.html
| Quote: | | Today's situation: LOW and FALLING FFR, curve is MIDRANGE (borderline steep) and has been STEEPENING. Statistically the bet is for continuing lowering of the FFR and continuing steepening of the curve. Although this is consistent with June's analysis based on regression output, it seems counterintuitive to what I'd gather from watching CNBC. Oh, bother. |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Suomodo Veteran Poster


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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| rffrydr wrote: | not much chance to get short.
Don't trust the P/C; Barron's sentiment indicator was strangely off the charts end-of-April.
Let us know when you see a move --pull us out of this funk. |
I am afraid of going short as well, rather play the volatility on the long side, if anything goes wrong I turn it to longer term investment , fair value for DJIA I see around 14000 now
I track about 10 sentiment indicators, SPX P/C is a short term one and a short term move can start a bigger move, enought time to decide later on.
If short term volatility exceeds 1000+ points why not playing it (on the long side e.g.) |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Me too, as I said, as it turned out on the unemployment friday before. Master H. taught me not to reverse positions on the same trade, not much chance to get short. Still, recessions are for buying. Don't have a good idea but can't say I'm willing to make a commitment 'til unemployment is marked at 6% or 30yr fixed hits 5.25...wherein I'll be picking stocks. Other than autos not big on int. earnings. July window-dressing may be it for momentum materials. Like some REITS, distressed yield, dollar, one airline; don't like some materials. Don't want to sell or buy volitility. Not excited to be long post Olympics. Don't trust the P/C; Barron's sentiment indicator was strangely off the charts end-of-April.
Let us know when you see a move --pull us out of this funk. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Suomodo Veteran Poster


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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Suomodo wrote: |
So if we truly get substantially higher within 2weeks (my guess chances are May Monday 5th):
IF we get over DJIA 13000/SP 1405 (on the Fed news) and SPX P/C will fall under 0,75 I sell my speculative long,
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And I did it ) at 13050 on May the 5th.
Two week ago I was in San Diego ona congress. My prevailing impression was, USA is CHEAP. Clothing cheap, petrol cheap, restaurants cheap, books cheap. At these levels of USD/EUR or even higher most of the US goods are very competitive compared to European, I suppose thats the FED economic strategy now - cheap US dollar+inflation=debt problem solved.
I talked to many people I met, they are bombarded by the bad news, afraid, however the business goes on.
Now for me the question is when to step in again... 12000 for a short term rebounce seems quite OK 300/400 points guaranteed, then according to sentiment P/C of 1,4 to buy and 0,8 to sell have been excellent predictors of change in lthe last 6 months.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?$CPC
From a timing point fo view June 16-18 (post expiration put buying) to a short term bottom.. the big question is earnings season in July - can be pretty bad despite defined benefits quaterly contributions on 15th... So dont know ifI want to be long after Alcoa starts reporting.
Thanks for any comments.. |
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keppierce Junior Poster

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| If you look at December 2, 2002 after an apparent double bottom similar to the current situation, the DJIA and SPX hit 9000 and 950 respectively on a negative reversal day similar to today. They both nearly retested the lows shortly after. Curious. |
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probtrader Senior Poster


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Suomodo Veteran Poster


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Strong rebouncing off the resistance...
When most are short term long, only bad news count... 1405 is a strenghold that can be either broken on some exstasy in a few days or needs time to be besieged like 1381... and in that case there is no need to sell afterwards...
FOMC did what everyone expected and the tone is neutral now... they still have space to fight if there is panic (July reports??, some black swan).. down to 1-1.25% or stay and watch if the markets flow smoothly slightly up...
If the US consumer can stand this summer there will be effects of the rate cuts visible and the recession is over, happy Xmas etc....
maybe its the right time to buy my admired car Chrysler Grand Voyager now... its 30% cheaper now than year ago and better than Volkswagen Sharan. NOw at the same price... Thanks FED for the present.. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:12 am Post subject: |
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It's friday's jobs number. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Suomodo,
That sounds like a good short-term strategy. We're seeing short-term divergences with the percentage of stocks above their 10-day MAs while the major indices ticked slightly higher.
Fed Funds futures are now discounting an 80% chance of a 25 bps cut. This is what I am betting as I think a 2.25% FFR is still too restrictive based on the Taylor Rule and given that housing prices show no signs of stabilizing just yet. The elevated LIBOR is also a concern. While a 25 bps cut won't directly bring down the LIBOR spread, it will definitely help bring LIBOR down on an absolute basis.
If we see a major rally later today - combined with strong volume and breadth - then we may have something that is more sustainable in the short-run.
Best regards,
Henry |
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