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Computers may be "superior" but they'll never, I'll bet, be "super":
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/03/mind-vs-machine/8386/
| Quote: | When the world-champion chess player Garry Kasparov defeated Deep Blue, rather convincingly, in their first encounter in 1996, he and IBM readily agreed to return the next year for a rematch. When Deep Blue beat Kasparov (rather less convincingly) in ’97, Kasparov proposed another rematch for ’98, but IBM would have none of it. The company dismantled Deep Blue, which never played chess again.
The apparent implication is that—because technological evolution seems to occur so much faster than biological evolution (measured in years rather than millennia)—once the Homo sapiens species is overtaken, it won’t be able to catch up. Simply put: the Turing Test, once passed, is passed forever. I don’t buy it.
Rather, IBM’s odd anxiousness to get out of Dodge after the ’97 match suggests a kind of insecurity on its part that I think proves my point. The fact is, the human race got to where it is by being the most adaptive, flexible, innovative, and quick-learning species on the planet. We’re not going to take defeat lying down.
No, I think that, while the first year that computers pass the Turing Test will certainly be a historic one, it will not mark the end of the story. Indeed, the next year’s Turing Test will truly be the one to watch—the one where we humans, knocked to the canvas, must pull ourselves up; the one where we learn how to be better friends, artists, teachers, parents, lovers; the one where we come back. More human than ever. |
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| Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:31 am Post subject: |
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The competition is not even close.
As below: computers do strange and wonderful things--including imitating and "refining" human intelligence. But there are no thoughts and, most key of all, no understanding.
Accenture "trades" at a penny. The market is always right. A computer does not understand that Accenture is worth 1 penny any more than it understands that the cat on the mat is vertical on its tail than its belly--or, even that the mat "lies" on the floor and is not balanced on the edge. Indeed "balance" means nothing to a computer unless it understands gravity. --And there is an awful lot of weight behind any human understanding of anything.
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Doubtless, but I don't think it's coming from a machine:
| Quote: | | The dream of duplicating human intelligence may be as old as humanity itself. The intellectual roots of AI go back to ancient myths and tales such as Ovid's story of Pygmalion, the sculptor who fell so in love with his creation that the gods brought his work to life. In the 19th century, English mathematician and proto-computer scientist Charles Babbage originated the idea of a programmable computer. |
http://www.marketthoughts.com/forum/a-robot-in-every-home-by-bill-gates-t3300,highlight,chinese+room.html
Machines certainly have become their own fundamental force. They did most of the buying last summer and are fast and unemotional in complex decsion making. That last factor may even be enough to beat traders at their own game under conventional circumstances. But computers bear a fundamental handicap--they don't know what they are doing.
As I've mentioned, facial recognition programs have made remarkable strides and are invaluable in scanning large numbers. But point them to the sky and they will continue to plug away finding "faces in the clouds." The ultimate dreamers? As the article says, language is the crux: The computer may be able to tell y9u "the cat is on the mat" but it has not idea what this really means in the context of gravity, that cats don't sleep on the tip of their noses, or mats don't rest on their edge, or what a cat is in relation to a mat..... In that sense computers never make it past the first step. They may ultimatly pass the Turing Test but still will never exibit "intelligence" See John Searle's 'Chinese Room'.
Computers are best at what they're being used for now--screening systems subject to human judgement. And arbitrage. February gave a taste of what happens when left to run the asylum.
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