MarketThoughts.com Home Page
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups  StatisticsStatistics   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

SAVINGS CULTURE

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    MarketThoughts.com Forum Index -> The China Board
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author SAVINGS CULTURE
rffrydr
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 16939
Location: Sunny California

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: SAVINGS CULTURE Reply with quote

Feet-on-the-ground case study on this global powerhouse who's seemingly intractable savings-rate represents half of its GDP. If you guessed the Confucian tradition combined with healtcare has something to do with it, you're right:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/worldservice/docarchive/docarchive_20090903-0906a.mp3


_________________
Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Post new topic   Reply to topic    MarketThoughts.com Forum Index -> The China Board
Author SAVINGS CULTURE Replies
rffrydr
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 16939
Location: Sunny California

PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only 10% arable land--and growin' on every square inch of that....I don't think Healthcare is going to go too far in curbing this savings instinct.
_________________
Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rffrydr
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 16939
Location: Sunny California

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savings Culture, yes. Savings in Western Banks, no. It is a measure of the strength of our asian convictions that fully a decade after our bank's "investment" in which we were left holding nothing but a chinese stock that the FT, for example, can still stand there shaking its finger:

BofA: tricky decisions in Asia

Imagine you’re David Darnell or Tom Montag at Bank of America. You have just been promoted to run the bank’s consumer businesses in the case of the former or the investment bank in Mr Montag’s case. Cost cutting is a priority. Already your boss has said publicly that up to 30,000 jobs will be reduced across BofA’s consumer bits before the knife turns to investment banking. Understandably, you want to delay the hard decisions: so you get started with Asia.

Predicting the future of banking is tricky, but one thing for certain is that as the developed world begins a long period of deleveraging, fast-growing regions such as Asia simply must have deeper and more sophisticated financial systems. For BofA, Asia is already outperforming all other markets in terms of growth. Even excluding China (BofA owns 5 per cent of China Construction Bank), its total exposure to Asia exceeded that of all other emerging markets combined last year.

So when Mr Darnell compares his 550-odd wealth advisers in Asia with the 15,500 in the US, say, it seems obvious where the axe is more likely to fall. Indeed, the reality is that anything consumer-facing stands a better chance of success in Asia than in BofA’s home market. The trickier decisions, therefore, are to be found in investment banking. That is because while BofA is pumping talent into the region – for example, five new business heads have started since 2010 and 80 per cent of the MSCI Asia Pacific index is now covered by the bank’s equity analysts – so is everyone else.

BofA is ranked fifth by share in Asian equity research, but barely makes the top 10 in equity trading and flow derivatives. It is nowhere in fixed income, commodities and currencies. All these businesses demand scale – in Asia, as everywhere else. BofA must aim for top three, or nothing at all.


Not only are banks a national(istic) enterprise in china, western banks are the anti-bank Twisted Evil

Just list their companies, finance the onslaught of investment here, and advise the great tide who will come to the same for advice.
_________________
Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
diesel
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 793
Location: Australia & New Zealand

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah my feeling is that market forces may be forcing ‘currency adjustment’ from that angle as China undergoes the transformation from employment growth via exports to employment growth via domestic demand. World demand for their exports remains on the soft side for now...
_________________
All cats are gray in the dark.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rffrydr
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 16939
Location: Sunny California

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, D. JPM looking at it from the inside:

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/10/19/374286/dont-fight-china-upgrade-it-says-jpm/

That direct investment will be interesting to follow.
_________________
Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rffrydr
Moderator
Moderator


Joined: 30 Oct 2005
Posts: 16939
Location: Sunny California

PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese rural consumption stimulus getting a typical cool western macro thumbs-down. But these are "first spenders." They're jump-starting a competitive purchasing culture in primary goods. And the social measure of dramatically reducing the rat population (thereby increasing food) is just what it implies....fundamental.
_________________
Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message

Please log in to view without the ad banners
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    MarketThoughts.com Forum Index -> The China Board All times are GMT - 6 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB