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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:09 pm    Post subject: Spanish Property Reply with quote

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Stuart Law, managing director of Assetz, said: "Falling Spanish house prices in real terms is actually old news, not least when talking about new-build properties in the tourist locations, as developers have been offering discounts for two years now in an effort to maintain their sales volumes.

"However, these price reductions have not shown up properly in the house price indices.

"The reason for this is that black money [cash passed over the table at the time of purchase to reduce capital gains tax] has been falling over the last two years or so under legal pressures, which has led to reported prices of sales transactions increasing.

"This has counteracted the actual reductions in new-build prices."



http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=659262007
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miami makes a comeback as the new old new Spain:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36920582
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30% of europe's new homes makes for an easy target--too easy:

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/09/02/69596/surprise-spanish-banks-are-not-hiding-their-losses/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the mortgages themselves are sounder the securitizations are more dangerous:

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/06/26/57236/forget-latvia-what-about-spain/

Owing largely to the political integration:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=ag8QFV3IUjwE
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/04/03/54459/unemployment-spanish-edition/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy. This is the private property Spain never had; the language and mortgage structures themselves will keep them at home. Meanwhile the country has come a long way to becoming the "singapore" of europe. If you believe in globalization and a recovering world economy second half you want to own spanish mortgage paper into the year's markdowns.

http://gmfactsandfiction.com/gm-builds-cars-and-trucks-people-want-to-buy/
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11670664

There is an image in this article that is worth the click alone.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you might be denied a loan in the "better priced" world to come. And you plan on settling down, right? Most mainstream housing turns over here in less than seven years. Not a bad rental situation. Key is the deposit. Can you save more renting? Anyway, alot of individual factors best discussed with your freinds in you locality.

What housing bubble? --Or, what housing bubble to come?

http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11412518
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Spanish guy Vs a complicate decission Reply with quote

Hi Folks:

I'm in the middle of a bubble, and don´t know what's better for me. What do you think about my own case....

I'm a spanish guy, 28 year old, and a little bit dissapointed with spanish situation of buying a home in madrid (country capital).

My problem is, i've been earning money since 18 years old, now i will have a baby in 6 months and i need to buy now or wait until bubble explodes ? what's best for me?

Good-keyfacts for trying to buy:

- The home i've found was priced on 300K , and i got 250k final price. It's a very nice place to live, and the house is like i always wanted, and cheaper than everything i seen, They need to sell fast because they have bought a new one.
- If i do this NOW the spread is between 0,25 / 0,37 + Euribor (i guess it's lower than some years ago) so it's a good spread for the mortgage
- If euribor low down, my spread still will be good, and my month cash will still be good
- If i want to morgage in the future, i will not have benefits of my 28-years-old


Bad-Keyfacts for not buy and think on renting:

- The prices are higher (even a 50k discount is less than the "theorical" prices that it can reach on the near future)
- My monthly economy will slowdown (even stop at all :-S)
- Government now benefits renting also, so we can assume that in a monthly basis


Other things i should consider:

I will have a baby in 6 months
I should leave my house in more or less 5 months
I want to own a house better than rent one


Well, more or less that's the situation. What do you thing i should do? buy or rent?

If there is a financial country problem will affect Spanish Central Bank reserves and that will have impacts on the country everywhere. In the case i don´t buy waiting for a better moment, ¿Can that crisis affect to my own money resources on the bank? ¿Will be that money on risk?

¿It makes sense buying now a house with a short-price (for today's prices) and shortest known euribor spread for the mortgage?

Thanks for help me !!! i will appreciate any comment, i don´t know what to do. Thanks for your reply's
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently home ownership is in the Constitution:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ao4F2HvP_rWo&refer=home
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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``We live in a country where everybody understands that appraisals are poetry,''.... ``Bankers have said to me, `Why do you care if the appraisal is fake? It will be true in the future.'''

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An update on the aftermath of the Spanish Housing Boom:

Ghost Towns Appear in Spain as Decade-Long Boom Ends

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ar3L878k5YM4&refer=exclusive

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The amount of Spanish families' wealth tied up in property in 2004 amounted to 4.3 trillion euros, or 510 percent of gross domestic product, according to the Bank of Spain. U.S. households held $17.2 trillion of real estate, or 159 percent of GDP, in the same period, according to the Federal Reserve.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spent a week in Spain. Construction cranes are everywhere. I don't think I passed even the smallest hamlet without at least four or five of them. They seem to use them for as little as two stories though so the sight of them might exxagerate the extent of building activity.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geoffrey wrote:
From the Economist article:

“It is all very well being the Florida of Europe, but it would be nice to be the California as well.”

So the having the rampant speculation of Florida isn't enough, they want California's as well.

The Spanish property market does seem to be following the American model of weakness showing up first in the builders, like TOL and KBH in late 2005. Could mean the lenders have a year to go.


Thats true indeed.Market depends on the

cities of well developed cultures and vice versa.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Economist article:

“It is all very well being the Florida of Europe, but it would be nice to be the California as well.”

So the having the rampant speculation of Florida isn't enough, they want California's as well.

The Spanish property market does seem to be following the American model of weakness showing up first in the builders, like TOL and KBH in late 2005. Could mean the lenders have a year to go.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holding up well:

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$ES30&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p93226479834

Spain is subject of Special Report this weeks' Economist:

http://economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9112308

Diversified or re-Empired?
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