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themanofinvesting Newbie

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:16 am Post subject: Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. Co (NYSE: RGR ) |
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RGR is a firearm manufacturing company that is solely domestic, 99% of its business comes from firearmes (mostly pistols amd revolvers).
It's market cap is 430.64 Million dollars, It's Price-to-earnings ratio is 15.75 (EPS 1.45), It's price-to-sales ratio is 1.59, It's price-to-book value is 3.50 (which is high, but can be overlooked).
I've went through the Form 10-K and NOTHING is stopping THIS company from growing. Accept two things, in the "management's discussion and analysis of financial condition and rusults of operations" the one of the paragraph states "The Company does not consider its overall firearms business to be predictably seasonal; however, orders of many models of firearms from the distributors tend to be stronger in the first quarter of the year and weaker in the third quarter of the year. This is due in part to the timing of the distributor show season, which occurs during the first quarter".
This concerns me...
The second thing is that the charts are iffy on a rise in the stock price,
(let me first point out that I am a options trader and I need a stock's price to appreciate 5 points or more in a months time) I dont think that this stock will achive this goal...
but my confliction is I really like the stock. So i would like the forum's opinion on the matter.
Thanks, themanofinvesting. |
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nodoodahs Moderator

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| themanofinvesting wrote: | | so nodoodahs, what you are saying is $23 is going to be a new support level for the stock, and the fundementals have no effect on the monthly-term trading for the stock. |
I think a little more clarification is required ...
looks like it set a decent defined trading range since April, with the high-23s being a potential pivot point.
That range is from a 19-handle to a 23-handle. To the way I learned charting, that would put high-23s as a resistance mark while RGR traded below it, as a support mark only provided that RGR broke above it. Ergo, a pivot point as I call it, a place where one could define their cut-and-run stops on trades either long or short.
Fundamental analysis requires months to years to play out a thesis.
I would say fundamentals have little effect on the short-term (days/weeks) and more effect the longer the term (months/years). Not exactly the same thing as "no effect," but close enough if you're dealing with short holding times, in my opinion.
Neither of the preceding two paragraphs apply in any way to short-term options trading, however.
Options aren't just a leveraged stock replacement. To some degree the characteristics of the instrument (the option) become more important than the characteristics of the underlying (the stock). So - again, just my amateur opinion - fundamentals mean even less when dealing with options that expire in a month, than they do with the hypothetical idea of trading the stock with a holding time of less than a month. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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themanofinvesting Newbie

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have one more question for the forum.
Does the forum think that RGR will go from $23 to $28? |
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themanofinvesting Newbie

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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| so nodoodahs, what you are saying is $23 is going to be a new support level for the stock, and the fundementals have no effect on the monthly-term trading for the stock. |
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We've already had our big "end of civilization" run, selling out ammunition across the land. Cerberus had to withdraw it "Freedom" IPO ( http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/04/04/freedom-group-seeks-to-pull-i-p-o/ ) but this looks like a "buy american" theme which I'm in for. Sell some puts and try to get long in your IRA--or go synthetic long and leverage up the way you like, without the time decay.  _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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nodoodahs Moderator

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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Your first problem is the conflict between being a short-term options trader, and actually reading a 10-K plus looking at valuation levels. Those things don't go together.
From a business perspective, I'd prefer the weapons manufacturers I 'invested' in to be doing big military and police contracts, domestically and overseas, and that's what I'd be looking for in the MDA.
Fundamentally, I haven't analyzed RGR in any detail, just took a brief look at 5-year cash flow, income statement, and balance sheet, nothing alarming there. I'd look at valuation metrics relative to industry and sector.
Neither of the preceding two paragraphs apply in any way to short-term options trading, however. Fundamental analysis requires months to years to play out a thesis.
Chartwise, I tend to like the relative strength over the last 6 months to a year-plus, and it looks like it set a decent defined trading range since April, with the high-23s being a potential pivot point. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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