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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: The White Man's Burden REVISITED Reply with quote

China in Africa--where Western guilt cannot go/do:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0602190331feb19,1,479378.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Et tu, iceland?

http://www.france24.com/en/20110831-iceland-china-resort-plans-green-resort-strategic-location-glacier-tourism
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is why many Chinese folks I know would prefer not to work for Chinese employers. Sad but true.
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



http://www.economist.com/node/18586448

It's not just about hard assets it's Exporting the "factory to the world" model.

For aeons the prospect of China and Africa coming closer together had seemed otherworldly. W.H. Auden wrote:

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I’ll love you, dear, I’ll love you
Till China and Africa meet,
And the river jumps over the mountain
And the salmon sing in the street.

Sweet-and-sour salmon now regularly croon in sub-Saharan streets. Africans are embracing new opportunities made in China yet remain wary of all the pitfalls.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Beijing's leaders "saw themselves as the leader of the Third World, the anti-imperialists, the anti-hegemonists. They felt that way right up until the time they had to evacuate everyone from Libya," said Amy Myers Jaffe, an energy analyst at Rice University's Baker Institute. "They have suddenly realized that there are political risks in energy equity markets and that they have to make much more sophisticated risk assessments."


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-china-oil-20110310,0,6747704.story
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On top of all the rest china now commits to $23 billion refining infrastructure--they'll soon own this country:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88c92d0c-5f7f-11df-a670-00144feab49a,dwp_uuid=9c33700c-4c86-11da-89df-0000779e2340.html
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Europe's now china's biggest export market--and they don't like it:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-05-10/china-s-central-bank-sees-price-threats-europe-crisis-risks.html
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's really the moral here? Democracy finds a way:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/world/africa/25niger.html?pagewanted=2&hp
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ivory

For more than 7,000 years, Chinese artisans have been crafting elephant ivory. Favoured by the Imperial household as far back as the Qing dynasty (1680), ivory has an illustrious reputation and an association with the wealthy and elite. But in 1989, the trading of ivory was banned worldwide through the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (Cites), after more than half of Africa’s 1.3 million elephants were poached in a single decade. And yet, with a carving trade established in antiquity and a burgeoning middle class who, for the first time, can afford to buy ivory, China remains its biggest importer.

As Asian elephant herds dwindle, African elephants have become the only source of ivory. In late 2008, Cites authorities allowed China to bid with Japan for tusks from official stockpiles – consisting of ivory collected from elephants that had died a natural death – in four southern African countries. In an open declaration of a continuing demand, 12 Chinese traders bought 62 tonnes at an average price of $144 per kilo. Since this legal purchase, more than 11 tonnes of illegal African ivory have been impounded en route to China.

Elephant poaching largely takes place in central Africa, where poverty and political instability are rife. Chronic unemployment, the availability of firearms and corruption all facilitate the illegal ivory trade. These regions are also home to unregulated domestic ivory markets, where carved items are bought and sold. According to ivory expert Esmond Martin, the majority of buyers are Chinese. In a scramble for Africa’s minerals and resources, the continent has seen a recent influx of Chinese workers – a presence that is visibly reflected in the illegal retailing of ivory. On a recent trip to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, Martin recorded 1,433 items of ivory openly displayed in the city’s main streets and central market. Among these were 149 pairs of freshly carved ivory chopsticks, selling for $16 each – in sharp contrast to a Chinese retail price of $139 – and signature stamps and jewellery. All of these items were small enough to potentially smuggle through customs.

Martin had previously estimated that 4,900 to 12,000 elephants from central Africa were killed each year to supply tusks to the craftsmen of Africa, China and Thailand. Conservationists are deeply concerned. According to Barbara Maas, CEO of Care for the Wild International: “With the number of Chinese nationals resident in Africa rising, and poaching on the increase, the frontline between supply and demand for ivory is now perilously close, with a disastrous outcome for elephants.”


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres the internet video of the program. Make sure you watch part 2 after part 1. Very Happy

http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/coming-up-sunday-2493058/video
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Watched a current affairs program last night that showed the impact to the community when BHP walked away from a 3 billion dollar nickel mine in western Australia. There was no compensation to the community or to many of their employees who were paid as contractors. The cost for 10 acres of land dropped from $230k to $70k overnight.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australia is a better investment it turns out:

http://www.tajikistannews.net/story/469831
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Child labor...a new twist on "equal treatment."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aW8xVLQ4Xhr8&refer=australia
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continues apace--but still lower extraction than the West:

"It is only 30 miles to the city, but we cannot reach there with the things we have to sell: tomatoes, cassava, charcoal," he told The Daily Telegraph.

"The road is too bad, the trucks are too expensive, and we are facing too many difficulties. It has always been this way, but now we hear that the Chinese will come and fix this."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/2299785/China's-andpound4bn-drive-to-buy-Africa's-mineral-wealth.html


http://gbcghana.com/news/21296detail.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

18 page section in The Economist on china's resource expansion into africa.

http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displayStory.cfm?story_id=10795714
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China brings their model of social DISintegration to Peru:

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN22586580
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