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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: Trouble on the Home Front |
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Trouble on the Home Front
By Nicholas Yulico
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/25/2006 9:48 AM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/markets/realestate/10263958.html
Homebuilders Centex (CTX:NYSE) and Ryland (RYL:NYSE) both reported strong quarterly earnings, but their new-order numbers, which will drive future growth, look dismal.
Calabasas, Calif.-based Ryland said its net income rose 49% to $162 million, or $3.32 per share, compared to $108.7 million, or $2.17 per share, a year earlier. The results handily beat the consensus $3.12 estimate on First Call.
But Ryland's unit orders fell 5% year-over-year for its latest quarter. The lackluster performance led A.G. Edwards analyst Greg Gieber to cut his rating on Ryland to sell. He also dropped his 2006 EPS estimate to $10.25 from $10.90. In a research note Wednesday morning, Gieber noted that the only area of strength in Ryland's orders came from Texas, where unit sales were up 27%. However, the average selling price in Texas is 36% below the company's average, with equally low gross margins, he said.
"Using our new 2006 EPS estimate, Ryland currently trades at a 7.3 times multiple. That is a 12% premium to the group's current average 2006 multiple of 6.5 times. We don't believe Ryland warrants any premium to the group," Gieber wrote.
Centex, which reported a 30% increase in its quarterly earnings, reported order growth, but it was weaker than analysts expected.
The Dallas-based builder said its new orders rose 4% to 8,128 homes. Sales were strongest in the Southwest, where orders spiked 28% year over year. On the West Coast, orders rose 10%. But orders fell 15% in the Southeast, 8% in the mid-Atlantic and 3% in the Midwest.
"This is not particularly positive to hit only 4%, though we don't know all the details behind it," says Gieber, who was expecting nearly 11% order growth.
Centex said net income rose to $329.3 million, or $2.49 a share, for its fiscal third quarter ending Dec. 31, up from $253.8 million, or $1.91 a share, a year earlier. Excluding discontinued items, Centex posted earnings of $332.7 million, or $2.52 a share. Analysts expected earnings of $2.48 a share, according to Thomson First Call.
Revenue rose 25% to $3.74 billion, shy of analysts forecast of $3.81 billion.
Centex's earnings growth came amid an 18% increase in home closings, which rose to 9,504 units from 8,047, and a 130-basis-point jump in operating margin.
The weak orders will likely be a focus on both companies' conference calls Wednesday morning. Homebuilder Meritage (MTH:NYSE) will also report earnings today at an unspecified time.
The existing home sales data comes out at 10 a.m. EST from the National Association of Realtors.
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Balloons are for clowns but got their roots in the high and mighty. Those coming into an inheritance through the decrepit and in-probabate, trust-funds payouts and legal settlements.
Clown-funnily enough it's also the basic CMBS structure....but that's another story. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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It never was the ARMs per se that were problematic.
It was mostly the ARMs with the balloon and teaser rate (and sometimes features like negative amort).
A vanilla ARM is a full-term mortgage going 15, 20, or more commonly 30 years. It might have a little bit of a teaser rate, slightly below market initially, but generally is close to the market rate and stays close due to the reset feature. Generally the lender gets protection long-term from interest rate risk (or in high-rate environments, from repayment/refinancing risk) by conceding a short period of below-market rates to the buyer.
Balloon ARMs had very short terms, usually 5 to 7 years. They typically had teaser rates lower than vanilla ARMs and amortized at a long schedule, i.e. payments based on the teaser at a 30 year amort but at the end of the 5-7 year term, the buyer was on the hook for the remainder of the principal, hence, they needed to refinance or sell before term ended. The low teaser in balloon mortgages allowed overqualifying for loans based on income and encouraged buying to flip for equity appreciation. The only environment in which balloons make sense is one of drastic appreciation and high turnover. Add to that the negative amort feature in some balloons near the end of the bubble, where the buyer could have avoided paying principle at all during the 5-7 year term! Balloons are for clowns. _________________ I haven’t seen a beatin’ like that since somebody stuck a banana in my pants and turned a monkey loose. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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There are a happy few still amongst us. All too easy to writeoff the whole period. This taken from a newgroup discussing ING's current ARM program (yes, they had a Black Friday special last year so check it out if you're in the market):
| Quote: | There is nothing wrong with ARM's.
WE have a 5/1 ARM since 2004. It adjusted to 3.125% last year, and just got a letter that it will be 3.00% this year.
Bad people gave ARM a bad name. If someone took the time to read the documents they were signing, they wouldn't have gotten into the trouble they did. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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The "troubles" are of course structural and we should not expect the usual "headline" contrarian effect:
| Quote: | Of the estimated 15 million homeowners underwater, about 7.8 million owed at least 25% more than their properties were worth in the first quarter of this year, according to Moody's Analytics' calculations of Equifax credit records and government data.
More than 4 million borrowers, including 672,000 in California, 424,000 in Florida and 121,000 in Illinois — three of the biggest real estate markets — were underwater more than 50%. Their average negative equity: a whopping $107,000..... |
| Quote: | .... If home prices were to rise at an annual rate of 3%, not an unlikely scenario, it would take the Hineses about 11 years to get to a point where their mortgage balance was even with their property value.
Refinancing the Hineses' 6.5% interest loan could be a big help, saving them almost $600 a month. But lenders won't even consider them.
And unless borrowers fall behind on their mortgage payments or face a high risk of defaulting, there's little chance that lenders, even with federal incentives, would reduce their principal or lower their interest rates. |
However, as the sold-out 259K Porsches show, the "pressure" on the middle-class to consume is being lifted from their shoulders and Private Investment stands waiting in the wings. The economy will trundle on and the Tea Party ranks will grow. The Govt.'s failure to pass on any significant "bailout" support to individual mortgage holders, for good or for ill, has planted a seed. The Paulson Plan, we miss you. But, as the NY Fed's suit over Bear Stearns CDOs shows, that would've probably come unraveled too.
PIMCO's ideas on squeezing stimulus out of GSE reform offers one last shot. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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With a 12% current account deficit the UK should be doing better! The problems will start if they cut that deficit too quick... _________________ All cats are gray in the dark. |
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Family formations averaging 1.5 million are down to .5 million last two years.
Meanwhile best construction stats since 1982 lead UK GDP numbers today:
| Quote: | | Yet, this is not a normal recovery by any standard and the drivers behind last quarter’s expansion raise considerable doubts about the sustainability of the cyclical momentum. In the expenditure breakdown released with the second GDP estimate, household spending rose 0.7%, following a 0.1% contraction in Q1, as the adverse effects of the VAT hike, inclement weather and pre-election uncertainty faded while the World Cup boosted sales. However gross fixed capital formation contracted 2.4% and exports came in weaker than expected at 1.1% after a 1.7% drop in Q1. Indeed, the contribution from foreign trade to growth has been next to zero this year as net exports added just 0.2ppts to the Q2’s quarterly pace, following a 0.1ppt deduction in Q1. In the output breakdown, construction expanded at an 8.5% pace, an up from 6.6% reported originally, which represents the highest pace since 1982. Construction accounted for 0.5% of the top-line’s 1.2% growth figure. Services growth was revised down to 0.7% from 0.9% before as air transport was disrupted due to the volcanic ash cloud from Iceland. |
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A pick up in housing starts can’t be far off as they are very low given 1-3% GDP growth supported mainly by income helped by the govt deficit spending, lower home prices, and reasonable mortgage rates.
The surviving companies are those that have figured out how to make money in this environment, and most have massive operating leverage should GDP pick up to more normal recovery levels. _________________ All cats are gray in the dark. |
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$ Million-plus home sales were up BTW. And RYL rallied all day on upgrades. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Bridgewater on today's existing home sales numbers:
| Quote: | Weak Existing Sales and Tightening of Standards
Existing sales in July declined by a record 27%, about twice as much as consensus expectations. A large drop had been expected as sales had been pulled forward to take advantage of the expiring tax credit, but the magnitude of the decline was very large and may indicate some underlying weakening of demand consistent with what has been happening to consumer spending more broadly. Housing activity in the first half of the year had been only mediocre even with the tax credit support, with the availability of low credit standards and low down-payment mortgages by the FHA, with efforts to slowdown defaults and with low rates. Now a lot of the support are being scaled back at a time when underlying demand also looks to be weakening. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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My Fall surprise is surprising me:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/38774985
4-year cycle lows into seasonal is now the orthodoxy. Vacations have turned against us. The BP cap is turning into one big anti-climax. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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