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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: Trouble on the Home Front |
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Trouble on the Home Front
By Nicholas Yulico
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/25/2006 9:48 AM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/markets/realestate/10263958.html
Homebuilders Centex (CTX:NYSE) and Ryland (RYL:NYSE) both reported strong quarterly earnings, but their new-order numbers, which will drive future growth, look dismal.
Calabasas, Calif.-based Ryland said its net income rose 49% to $162 million, or $3.32 per share, compared to $108.7 million, or $2.17 per share, a year earlier. The results handily beat the consensus $3.12 estimate on First Call.
But Ryland's unit orders fell 5% year-over-year for its latest quarter. The lackluster performance led A.G. Edwards analyst Greg Gieber to cut his rating on Ryland to sell. He also dropped his 2006 EPS estimate to $10.25 from $10.90. In a research note Wednesday morning, Gieber noted that the only area of strength in Ryland's orders came from Texas, where unit sales were up 27%. However, the average selling price in Texas is 36% below the company's average, with equally low gross margins, he said.
"Using our new 2006 EPS estimate, Ryland currently trades at a 7.3 times multiple. That is a 12% premium to the group's current average 2006 multiple of 6.5 times. We don't believe Ryland warrants any premium to the group," Gieber wrote.
Centex, which reported a 30% increase in its quarterly earnings, reported order growth, but it was weaker than analysts expected.
The Dallas-based builder said its new orders rose 4% to 8,128 homes. Sales were strongest in the Southwest, where orders spiked 28% year over year. On the West Coast, orders rose 10%. But orders fell 15% in the Southeast, 8% in the mid-Atlantic and 3% in the Midwest.
"This is not particularly positive to hit only 4%, though we don't know all the details behind it," says Gieber, who was expecting nearly 11% order growth.
Centex said net income rose to $329.3 million, or $2.49 a share, for its fiscal third quarter ending Dec. 31, up from $253.8 million, or $1.91 a share, a year earlier. Excluding discontinued items, Centex posted earnings of $332.7 million, or $2.52 a share. Analysts expected earnings of $2.48 a share, according to Thomson First Call.
Revenue rose 25% to $3.74 billion, shy of analysts forecast of $3.81 billion.
Centex's earnings growth came amid an 18% increase in home closings, which rose to 9,504 units from 8,047, and a 130-basis-point jump in operating margin.
The weak orders will likely be a focus on both companies' conference calls Wednesday morning. Homebuilder Meritage (MTH:NYSE) will also report earnings today at an unspecified time.
The existing home sales data comes out at 10 a.m. EST from the National Association of Realtors.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Here lies the true margins of the housing market:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-retirelatam-sp,0,1885714.special?coll=la-home-center
They're not talking about holing up in an apartment in Mexico City. These are full housing tracts carved from nature, built up in fine Orange County style anf fully occupied by gringos. With their own cars.
15K for a "Flight to Life" trip to Miami for emergency medical and the "savings" soon evaporate. Costa Rica was the role model and became priced like anywhere here in the US. Prices I remember in one of these tracts in Panama were running about $250,000 in '04. It'll be interesting to watch. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Note the site financing:
| Quote: | | Dorfman pointed out that the auction's on-site financing is provided by Countrywide, the nation's largest mortgage lender and one buffeted by defaults on subprime mortgages. |
I see them in the chinese newspaper and here at the auction site. I see their massive multisite headquarters in Simi Valley. BofA wants them, period. I'll be looking at their bonds as this selloff exhausts itself.
On the positive side, from what I've seen, these auctions have been very successful so far from the builders POV. They have brought out all the true believers (and the pent up demand) from 4years of deprivation and sold a large inventory quickly and profitably. The "auction effect" has taken most of these sales into that other marginal pricing--builder's. I'm seeing 10% - 15% off last year's--not a firesale. Of course, there is and must be the odd sacrificial lot.
In the mid-eighties popular expression of real esate value gave us "The Money Pit."
http://imdb.com/title/tt0091541/
It won't be until this sense of a home as a storehouse of value is turned on its head that we'll carve out a bottom--based on housing's, and its financing, fundamental role in our society. If not in others (see next post) _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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HenryTo Site Admin


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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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300 homes in Minnesota may be a small number but it is no laughing matter, given that houses (just like everything else) are priced at the margin. Of course, it one home in a 10,000 unit neighborhood sells for 75% of where it sold at a year ago, it could be classified as an anomaly, but if it was a house that was sold right next door - then, that's a different story:
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1496691.html |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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I read that this morning and the part breaking down the imput costs on an average home was notable--not just for the discounts in the auctions but on an absolute basis. $450,000, without appreciation is gonna keep average families OUT of the american dream by mathematics alone. --Ah the condo, home sweet home. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Homebuilders Liquidate Assets as Threat to Survival Spurs Sales
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=adFsGVxspArw&refer=economy
| Quote: | The 15 largest homebuilders are saddled with $7.75 billion in debt due to be repaid through 2009 and the companies' bonds trade as if they were junk, according to credit-default swap data.
At least five of the top 15 homebuilders by revenue are burdened with too much debt, Agency Trading's Barron said. They are Hovnanian in Red Bank, New Jersey; Irvine, California-based Standard Pacific; WCI Communities Inc. of Bonita Springs, Florida; Atlanta-based Beazer Homes USA Inc.; and TOUSA Inc. in Hollywood, Florida.
``We would not be surprised to see one or more of the larger homebuilders become insolvent if current pricing trends persist into 2008,'' Mark A. Morgan, senior equity financial analyst with New York-based Rochdale Securities LLC, wrote in a note to clients on Sept. 27.
At least seven publicly traded homebuilders have asked their banks for more lenient lending terms in the past four months, according to New York-based research firm CreditSights Inc. They are Pulte, on June 29; D.R. Horton, on July 6; Beazer, on July 25; Dallas-based Centex Corp., on July 18; KB Home on Aug. 17; Lennar, on Aug. 21; and Standard Pacific on Sept. 14. |
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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BCA on homebuilders:
http://www.bankcreditanalyst.com/public/story.asp?pre=PRE-20070927.GIF
| Quote: | | Homebuilding stocks have been stuck in a freefall and a turnaround in coming quarters is unlikely. Heightened concern about sub-prime loan defaults remains a key ingredient to the bear market in both sub-prime and housing stocks. Notably, sub-prime relative performance, has led homebuilding stocks in the past decade, and the current message is still negative. Meanwhile, Lennar posted a massive third-quarter loss Tuesday, highlighting that the industry still has the ability to surprise on the downside. |
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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KB Homes flagging a 50% cancellation rate.
Existing Home prices are finally beginning to fall which may enable these commitments to firm--ironically. _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| XHB making a new low as I am typing this - led by LEN. |
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Story on Beazer:
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CORRECTED: Beazer's notes trustee claims company in default
Friday September 7, 11:06 am ET
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Home builder Beazer Homes USA Inc (NYSE:BZH - News) said on Friday it received "purported" default notices related to some senior notes from the bank that serves as trustee for the notes, sending shares down as much as 13 percent.
Beazer, already facing a deteriorating housing market as well as two separate pending probes related to its mortgage-origination business, said it believes the notices of default "are invalid and without merit."
U.S. Bancorp (NYSE:USB - News), parent of U.S. Bank, declined immediate comment.
Last month, Beazer sued U.S. Bank, the trustee for the senior notes, in federal court in Atlanta, asking the court to rule that a delay in filing its quarterly financial report did not constitute a default on $1.3 billion of its outstanding notes.
As a trustee, U.S. Bank acts as middleman between Beazer and its bondholders, providing administrative services such as distributing interest payments. It also passes on notices of default if certain conditions are not met. The bank does not necessarily have lending exposure to Beazer.
U.S. Bank said in the notices that Atlanta-based Beazer is in default because it has not yet filed its quarterly report for the period ended June 30. The notices allege the defaults will become "events of default" if not remedied within 60 days, Beazer said.
The home builder said its agreements related to the notes require delivery of quarterly reports to U.S. Bank within 15 days of their submission to regulators. It previously said it had delivered every quarterly report as required and never missed a bond payment.
Beazer said on August 15 its delay in filing its third-quarter Form 10-Q was due to internal probes into the company's mortgage origination business.
It said last month its former chief accounting officer, who was fired, may have caused reserves and other accrued liabilities to have been recorded in prior accounting periods above what is allowed under generally accepted accounting principles. The company said resolution of the issue would not affect its reported cash position.
In July, Beazer disclosed the SEC was investigating possible violations by the company of U.S. securities laws.
Earlier this year, Beazer disclosed it was the subject of several lawsuits as well an informal SEC probe and a U.S. Attorney's investigation into practices in its mortgage business.
On Friday, Beazer's shares fell as low as $9.50, before easing to $9.90, down $1.01, or 9.3 percent, in early trading on the New York Stock Exchange. |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Hovanian puking up 13000 more homes. Beazer receives default notice after saying not in default.
Are we looking for hombuilder bust as institutional wreck? _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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rffrydr Moderator


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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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It's those guys in Cali and Florida again:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/new-foreclosures-set-record-latest/story.aspx?guid=%7B5266FE43%2D10D5%2D4469%2DAABE%2D7F6885DA05A3%7D&dist=SecMostRead
At some point comments like this will become quaint:
| Quote: | Duncan said there was a "clear divergence" in performance between fixed-rate and adjustable-rate mortgages because of the impact that rate resets have.
"While the seriously delinquent rate for prime fixed loans was essentially unchanged from the first quarter of the year to the second, and the rate actually fell for subprime fixed- rate loans, that rate increased 36 basis points for prime ARM loans and 227 basis points for subprime loans," he said. | [/quote] _________________ Today is the Tomorrow you worried about Yesterday! |
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