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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Yes You CAN trade the Shanghai Reply with quote

Interesting spread potential--esp. for those China believers and US disbelievers.

http://china.seekingalpha.com/article/36750

http://www.etfconnect.com/select/fundpages/global.asp?MFID=168692

Much has gone out of this trade but much remains.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and, it didn't hold. But looks to be regained ST. There always seems to be a "dagger" waiting at these retests. On the brightside, prices have "normalized":

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China’s equity market is at an inflection point. If Monday’s intervention from Central Huijin to buy shares in the country’s four biggest banks proves to mark a bottom for stocks, then the market would be confirmed as a giant bet on the timing and trajectory of government meddling. If, on the other hand, prices keep meandering sideways and downwards from here, it is a sign that the market is maturing. No amount of coercion from the government can overcome fears over US/European Union recession, domestic inflation, a property crunch and rising bad loans.

For now, the latter outcome seems more likely. Huijin’s open-market purchases of Rmb60m-worth of Shanghai-listed shares in ICBC, for example, initially sent the Rmb1368bn stock up more than 4 per cent on Tuesday, leading the broader market. But by close the bank’s gain had more than halved, while the market was flat. Investors seemed to be saying: the domestic arm of China Investment Corp, the sovereign wealth fund, can look to enhance the value of its assets all it wants. But the days when the arms of the state can seek to direct the fundamental course of equity prices, by tweaking stamp duty or by freezing new issuance, are over.

The market, after all, has done some growing up. Select institutions now have access to index futures, margin trading and short selling. The expiry of lock-ups means that the tradable market capitalisation of A-shares was 82 per cent of the total in August, up from 30 per cent just three years before. Shanghai’s price/book multiple, more than quadruple that of the S&P 500 less than four years ago, is now virtually identical. A successful intervention from Huijin would represent a step backwards to a less enlightened age: one in which fundamentals might scream “buy,” yet no one actually does so until the state tells them to.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai test long-term rising bottoms.....and holds.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of two unqualified winners I had on during this global puke-down has been liquidated. Very Happy

Adjusted for IRA embedded fat div distribution end '09 (currency) and one HSBC call on hedge this puppy never looked back--and I'm a china bear!

Sometimes I think you should only trade what you have NO opion of (index investing by the back door!).



http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=CAF#chart2:symbol=caf;range=6m;compare=fxi;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add "repatriation" issues to sufferings of this fund...however for IRA investors may be an opportunity here:

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20081219005862&newsLang=en
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long double bottom?

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CAF:FXI&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p31877702757
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We know why this discount to NAV is:

http://www.seekingalpha.com/article/60847-with-china-out-of-fashion-this-fund-s-trading-at-a-discount

...is because only way of western concerns to hedge their direct exposure. As money gets more integrated and HK markets overlap this will disappear.

For bottom-pickers only. Nice kicker for 5 year horizons.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to pretend the unreal is real:

http://www.fool.com/investing/international/2007/09/20/china-mobile-still-ringing.aspx
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